Frank, I hope you didn't miss the distinction I make as well. I make a pretty good amount of money playing Irish music, and I quite agree that the horse puckey about the drink and smoke is just that. My point is that there is a way that eliminates the arguments about so called "rights".

And Ernest, don't give me that crap about the outdoors. I am not talking about all of the outdoors. I am talking about public spaces. Do what you want on your own property, but you have no right on public property to force me to smell this disgusting crap. My proposal makes smokers move to where NO ONE has to live with their ugly, unhealthy habit.

Mick