The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #104170   Message #2138313
Posted By: beardedbruce
01-Sep-07 - 09:15 AM
Thread Name: BS: Mutual respect
Subject: RE: BS: Mutual respect
I said: ( To AMOS)

"YOU have NOT given any reason other than your own opinion: The Nazis may well have said "The assertion that Jews, Gypsies, and the handicapped are fully human is specious.", yet I fail to agree that that made them correct ( though it was LEGAL, by their own laws) in acting on it."

Should he care to present ANY reasons, I will certainly listen- unlike you seem to be saying you would.

I said TO YOU:

"AS I HAVE STATED, The point being ignored is that the pro-life folks are of the opinion that the fetus is a human being. UNLESS you discuss this, you leave the idea that murder is ok, as long as it is someone YOU think is not human- like Jews, Gypsies, handicapped, old folks, fetuses, etc."

This is a straightforward interpretation of the facts that

1. the Pro-life folks consider the fetus to be human
2. YOUR comment that "Or then again they might not. In the real world, outside the idealist religious/political positions, a vote against legal abortion is a vote for illegal abortion."

The fact that making something against the law makes it illegal is NOT a valid reason for NOT having a law that the society considers desireable. Your statement, to the people who think the fetus is human, is that 'In the real world, outside the idealist religious/political positions, a vote against legal killings is a vote for illegal killings'. UNTIL you realize that YOU are not capable of HAVING a realistic, real world discussion of the subject.