PS. I don't see this thread as a pissing contest. I think that most of the time when someone says that a thread is nothing but a "pissing" contest, it is merely because they feel as though their pov is threatened, and they would rather think incivility of others than consider their alternative point of view.

SLOW DOWN AND CONSIDER that maybe I have slowed down and considered and still find it a logical question to ask. If one says that something is "evil" but chooses not to do anything about it, it seems quite logical to ask the basis upon which they consider it "evil".

But it's easier to come into the thread, declare it a pissing match, take the side you are most comfortable with, and patronize the other side with "SLOW DOWN AND CONSIDER" ...as though mine was an inherently UNthoughtful and UNconsidered opinion.