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Thread #104170   Message #2140148
Posted By: beardedbruce
03-Sep-07 - 09:02 PM
Thread Name: BS: Mutual respect
Subject: RE: BS: Mutual respect
"So you don't refute that you called me a Nazi?
"

I believe I HAVE refuted that. Are you sure I was addressing you? What DID YOU SAY in the post previous that I was responding to?


MY COMMENT:So you would advocate legalizing murder so that illegal murders would not occur?

IN RESPONSE TO: "a vote against legal abortion is a vote for illegal abortion."



MY COMMENT:AS I HAVE STATED, The point being ignored is that the pro-life folks are of the opinion that the fetus is a human being. UNLESS you discuss this, you leave the idea that murder is ok, as long as it is someone YOU think is not human- like Jews, Gypsies, handicapped, old folks, fetuses, etc.

IN RESPONSE TO: "Think for yourself what REALLY happens in the REAL world. "

My comment:You mean like in Germany, from 1939 to 1945?

My Comment:Oh, YOU mean the world as YOU want to have it be.


MY COMMENT:IF the fetus is human ( and *** I *** have not stated it is, from conception: Without brain function, I have my doubts as to its humanity) THEN abortion **IS** murder. The fact that illegal murders will ocurr when we make murder illegal is NOT reason to keep it legal.

MY COMMENT:You mean like in Germany, from 1939 to 1945?
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MY COMMENT:The fact that you advocate a line of reasoning similar to the ones thga the Nazis did is not over the top:

MY COMMENT:1. *** I *** am not infallible: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???

IN RESPONSE TO: "In fact, since you are so absolutely certain of your own infallibility, I'm not sure why you are debating at all." YOU are the one claiming you KNOW something.

MY COMMENT:2. I am presenting a viewpoint I DO NOT claim to believe: BUT THE POINT THAT I AM TRYING TO MAKE is one that is NOT capable of being ignored IF one desires a resolution to the arguement.

MY COMMENT:Why are you here? It seems like you cannot consider any viewpoint, EVEN FROM THE ABSTRACT, IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK A GIVEN WAY, other than those you have decided are correct: Is that why you claim such infallibility that you cannot engage in rational debate?

IN RESPONSE TO : "As I said, I don't think we have sufficient common ground to engage in rational debate"