"Point: change (or amend) the damn constitution!" Is a demand--not a point from debate--

Well said, Gary T--I am a legal wonk, among other things, and I have spend many happy hours pouring over discussion of the principles involved here--I think that a real discussion of the issue can only begin when people understand the ideas that you have expressed--

McGrath made a mocking sort of inquiry as to whether "Common Sense" was provided for in the constitution, which is sort of amusing, because the fundamental principles were actually put forward in Thomas Paine's pamphlet, entitled "Common Sense" printed in that wonderful year, 1776.

The issue of "Gun Control" is not about guns, or arms, at all, it is about the degree of control that we should allow any government to have over our lives. If you do not address this question, and it's implications, as reflected in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, you are not really in the debate at all. Furthermore, if you don't understand this question, you haven't got a clue to what America is about--

So check out Tom Paine--he is the font from whence this all springs(or at least he said it best) (Kelida, you should read him--I think you may be related!)Common Sense