I've found myself arguing with Wolfgang on other threads about various subjects. I've never been aware of "attempts to belittle, insult by insinuation" and so forth. Just of someone who is very committed to sticking to the demonstrable facts, and well able to spot holes in an argument.

Those are qualities which are not met with in an opponent all that often, and I value them.

This of course is thread drift. I would suggest that if anyone feels like turning the discussion to these kinds of issues - techniques of argument etc - it would be better to do so in a separate thread. Perhaps providing a link to it from here.