None of what Georgina or Diane has said contradicts what I said. I said "no real second revival." A couple of radio shows and the Opie's books are not a real second revival. In fact, the Opie's books have had very little influence on the folk music scene, and it's puzzling to bring them up in this context.

"During and after the War, BBC Radio programmes like 'Countryside Magazine' featured traditional singers and versions of recently collected songs sung by professional singers, whilst newsreels and radio feature programmes recorded customs." This is not the same as creating a revival singing scene. What Georgina describes is really more a continuation of the first revival than anything very new. Almost all of the singers we associate with the second revival were in fact influenced by Americans, as well as Diane's "Ewan and Bert." Was this influence "limited and specific?" Of course, all influences are. Huge, but limited. Widespread, but specific.

The heart of the second folk revival was the thriving club scene, with Louis Killen and Martin Carthy and Nic Jones and Anne Briggs and Bob Fox and the High Level Ranters, and Ewan MacColl with his American partner (what was her name? Seeger or something)? Would this have happened with no American influences? No one can say, but it seems unlikely.