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Thread #104731   Message #2167583
Posted By: The Sandman
09-Oct-07 - 06:20 PM
Thread Name: how important is the label traditional singer?
Subject: RE: how important is the label traditional singer?
FOLKIE DAVE,
whenever anyone contributes to a thread on this forum,they are giving only their own opinion.that applies to you as well as me or anyone else.
my evidence is before my eyes,I have been involved with the folkscene for forty years and in my opinion,it is ninety percent middle class.[middle class is not in my opinion derogatory]
no2,
I have heard Fiddlers Green and Three score,being sung by fishermen[who are not part of the folk revival] many times in this area,I consider that evidence[and that is only my opinion] that these songs have entered the tradition.
Dave, my statements about class are not any more self important than Wee Little Drummers,yet you are not even handed with your insults.,you havent accused him of making self important statements about class.
Subject: RE: how important is the label traditional singer?
From: weelittledrummer - PM
Date: 06 Oct 07 - 08:38 AM

well I think its a sort of middle class atavistic drive for solidarity. keeps the plebs away. they're not going to bother with these songs where the substance is at very best hidden and in many cases negligible.

so we'll sing it in this daft voice. we won't actually bother learning the words (or the tune) only professionals do that and we're gifted amateurs, who could be professionals if we wanted, but we'd rather be quantity surveyors.
I have not replied to you before,Because it is quite clear you have an axe to grind.I have enclosed WLD post, your lack of reaction to his post,and your hostility to me,illustates this perfectly
you have already been asked by one contributor not to be insulting[Jim Martin].
why should your opinions,be taken any more seriously than mine,you have not provided evidence that the folkscene is not ninety percent middle class,neither have you provided a logical reply or proved that Fishermen singing the above mentioned songs about their livelihoods is not evidence of their having entered the tradition.Dick Miles