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Thread #105498   Message #2171761
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
15-Oct-07 - 03:13 PM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: False Young Man
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: False Young Man
Their arrangement is recorded on Fellside FECD195, 2005. The precise source is identified in the sleeve notes. Sara learned the song from Shirley Collins, and a transcription from Shirley's own recording is in the DT: False True Love.

The DT does not credit Shirley's source, and mis-classifies the song as a version of Child 68. She got it from Maud Karpeles (ed), English Folk Songs from the Southern Appalachians Collected by Cecil J Sharp, II, 51: Sharp noted it from Mr T Jeff Stockton at Flag Pond, Tennessee, on 3 September 1916. Shirley's arrangement involved some small changes of wording.

I'm not sure why Sara (and evidently others) have thought it related to 'House Carpenter' and/or 'Young Hunting'; perhaps because of a vague similarity in the opening lines, which are a ballad commonplace and occur in many unrelated songs. The song family is classed at number 419 in the Roud Folk Song Index: because most of the verses 'float' between songs, this is quite a large group at present, though in time it may be broken down into sub-categories.