Bryn, re: cath baw that's the point I was trying to make, but with delicacy verging on obscurity.

Jeff, I go through Devil's Bridge quite often. Two of the great Welsh ethnomusicologists/tradition bearers live a few miles south of there, and Robin Huw Bowen, the triple harper, lives a few miles west of there. I've had it in my mind to organize a picnic/session for folkies on the narrow-guage rail line some day ...

sian