As a pensioner who already knows he is a bit of a dinosaur, believe me I wish to Christ I had never started this thread. I have received messages calling me a "troll" a member or supporter of the "British Nationalist Party" a "racist" and "homophobic".

I wish to say I am none of the above, what I am is an old fool who started a thread here after reading last Sundays newspapers and thought it would make an interesting thread.

What it has shown me is some members of mudcat cafe sit at their keypads on a battle footing awaiting a green light.