Mbo said:

"Let's face it, guys, we're pigs."

Speak for yourself, Mbo. I know for a fact that in my young adult days I lost out with several young ladies because I took them at their word that they didn't want to. In one case, by telephone later, in ending the relationship, she said, "You could have, you know." I said, "I know. I knew. But you SAID no, and I'm not going to be in the position of a rapist [what today we'd call a date-rapist]."

The other young ladies were not as explicit, but the message was just about as clear. One said, "Nice guys finish last." So be it. Like Popeye, "I yam what I yam," and that's going to be straight-up or nothing.

Dave Oesterreich