"Is that all atheists or just some?"

Mainly the Christopher Hitchens variety.

The thing about atheism is that it isn't a collection of ideas or a way of organising anything. It is simply a personal judgment that I don't believe their is a god who knows things and does things.

"Is that the only organising principle or one of a number?"

The primary one, I believe.

How about the ownership of land and the organisation of food production?

How about the development of Law.

How about the rules of inhertance

"You can say what you like, religions do that, but it doesn't really add anything to human understanding."

Huh?

Yes, fair comment
EVERYTHING came out of religion
I don't think it's true enough to be much help.

"So that's how things are organised."

Precisely, like picnics in parks. Complete with gulags, forced marches, ethnic cleansing, total war, and other fun activities.

Are Race and ideology the only way things are organised? I suppose I think like many people that democracy is the worst system except for all the rest.

The central point for me is not any particular religion. We could probably make a list of religions that at one time or another have been good for people. The real problem is to stand back and look at lots and lots of them, even sects within the same believe system. Their are all sorts of contradictory views of history and ways of treating each other. How does that make any sense?

Just try exploring the concept of the Christian Holy Trinity.

Some people do bad things when they are unaccountable. All totalitarian systems have this tendency - some are religious and some are not. Thats why poor old democracy remains the only bet.

Sorry I didn't mean to be so rude and unpleasant

Cheers