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Thread #106757   Message #2209349
Posted By: Jack Campin
05-Dec-07 - 03:25 PM
Thread Name: Dance tunes in minor keys
Subject: RE: Dance tunes in minor keys
M.Ted:

I gave the hijaz scale on D (not E) and the implication of your reply was that I got it wrong (rather than just not being quite sure what the Jewish name for it was).   So *what* were you saying I got wrong?

You are more likely to see tunes from either Jewish or Arab traditions published in D than in E, so I don't quite see why E comes into it. Hijaz on E would be E F G# A B C D E.

As you say, some names are used both for full makams and for tetrachords, but if someone talks about the *makam* hijaz they only mean one out of the family of possible makams that has hijaz as the lower tetrachord. (Basically the same usage as "major" and "minor" in Western music - a mode that starts with a major tetrachord is a major mode, but if someone mentions *the* major scale they only have one mode in mind).

One other familiar piece that uses the hijaz scale is the second theme in Ravel's Bolero (on C, going C Db E F G Ab Bb C). I presume Ravel thought of it as Spanish, what Spanish names are there for it?