It eventually comes down to one person and that person's beliefs.

No one has yet asked what mine are. So, at this point it looks like a few people expressing an opinion about something (in this case, my beliefs) they believe. Take a good look at yourselves.

In fact, I am very much supportive of the scientific method. But people are confusing two worlds and failing to understand the world they do not support. Good scientists explore possibilities of the physical reality by/with which we are surrounded. People who believe in G-d explore the possibilities of the 'other' world by/with which we are surrounded. Personally, I don't really care who believes what.

"News
Tobacco company set up network of sympathetic scientists
Clare Dyer, legal correspondent, BMJ


The US tobacco giant Philip Morris set up a network of scientists throughout Europe who were paid to cast doubt on the risks of passive smoking and highlight other possible causes of respiratory problems, according to confidential documents from the company's law firm released on the internet.

The company's consultants included "an editor" of the Lancet, an adviser to a Commons select committee, and members of working groups of the International Agency for Research in Cancer, claims a memo from the US lawyers Covington and Burling.

Clues in the documents point to the Lancet contact as the late Petr Skrabanek, who was not an editor but a regular contributor who wrote editorials among other articles. Robin Fox, the Lancet's editor from 1990 to 1995, said it was "very likely" that Dr Skrabanek, who was an associate professor of community health at Trinity College, Dublin, was the scientist referred to in the memo.

Under the heading "Lancet" the memo says: "One of our consultants is an editor of this very influential British medical journal, and is continuing to publish numerous reviews, editorials, and comments on environmental tobacco smoke and other issues." Dr Fox said Dr Skrabanek did not write editorials on smoking."

The rest of the story may be found at

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/316/7144/1553/d

The prevailing presumption is that anyone who thinks science/scientists are manipulated for other agendas has to be a believer in G-d and anyone who believes in G-d has to be anti science. That is not logical.

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Y'all can keep this thread because it is going nowhere, imo. At least as far as my time is concerned. Keep well, all.