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Thread #106771   Message #2215857
Posted By: Bobert
15-Dec-07 - 08:19 AM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Here's 89 cents, t... Take it and 1441 to your local convience store and get you a cup of coffee...

You seem to have taken 1441 and elevated it to God0like proportions.... If you can remember back to when it was adopted, the reality on the ground was that the world was shocked by Bush's insistence on invading Iraq... You seem to conviently leave that out... Other than Blair, Bush had no real support for such a venture...

Bush was ready to invade in the fall of 2002... Remember them having to reload the "marketing" of the war from August until late September because the American people are too busy in August with late vations, upcoming Labor Day and getting kids back to school...

So they delayed the marketing after some August sabre rattling...

Powell was the long voice that fall as the Cheney/Wolfowitz/Rumdfelds War Machine pounded and pounded for war but Powell told Bush that no one was going to buy this war if there wasn't some level of legitimacey. meaning going to the UN... UIt was a delaying tactic on Powell's part as demonstartions around the countery and world brought pressure on Bush to reverse course...

This is the way historians will sort it out...

I mean, we were all there, T, so for you to now think that the UN was the motivation behind the invasion is not talling the correct story...

Everyone knew that Bush was going to invade... Even the half a million or so of US who marched in January on that very cold day knew that all we were doing was making a stand against a decision that had been made much earlier...

Secretary of the Treasury O'Niel said that Bush was consumed with invading Iraq from Day 1... Why would this loyal, lifetime Republican lie??? Just to sell a book??? I think not...

So the UN got pounded with new 'n improved propaganda fro Powell, who by now and been pounded into submission by the chickenhawk war machine in Bush's tiny circle of trusted advisors... They gave him photographs, which BTW proved nothin', and sent him off to do to the UN what had been done to him...

A reluctant UN passed 1441 but it wasn't what you have it made it out to be: the Holy Grail!!! It was an framework for the situation to be corrected without the invasion... Yes, there were expectations placed on Iraq, some of which were met and others, not...

There was alot of progress made in a very short time by the Blix team...

Now, there is a concept known as the "spirit of the law" as opposed to the letter of the law... Tghe spirit of the law allows people to use good judegment when the letter of the law isn't strictly followed...

What historians, unlike you, T, will get right is that the letter of the law was perhaps upheld at the expense of the spirit of the law and thus, upwards of a million people have been killed because folks like you only see balck and white... Black and white does not explain human behavior or exhistence... Most is in the gray...

Thus, by having no ability to see anything but black and white, this terrible decision was made.. It isn't what the UN forsawe with 1441 and certainly isn't way Congresss had in mind with it's own Resolution...

Historians will get this right...

B~