We can see what a vast set of subjects this thread is on about.

   And there are shelves of books and articles on both human consciousness, and reality and our perception if it.

   little wonder heads are hurting. Great philosophers, religious and other thinkers have been at these subjects for a year or two.

   We all go thru life with flawed philosophies, flawed theories and erroneous perceptions.

   Donuel, I haven't followed your posts enough to get enough of a picture of you. I'm very aware of what gaps there can be between one person's view of another, and some of the reality (can't say the reality). So much of what people both do, and don't do, comes from what they THINK another person is like. Same with all human groupings - company boards, bosses. employees, partners et cetera.

   And how people believe they DO know another like a book.

   Pirandello did a play about this ("You're Right if You Think So". I think). You ger a plethora of views of x by the characters in the play.

no doubt all of whom think their view is correct. In a way they can. Because a,b and c are different people, and bring out different parts of x. There isn't one relationship , x and another; x and a - x and b - and x and c.

    Ivor


    Ivor