That's the thing people who believe the gospels as history NEVER seem to want to talk about.

I'm sorry that the well-educated, hardworking theologians are usually kept busy (where their paychecks come from), in church, because that's where the scholars I know usually DO talk about exactly that in what is often called a Theological Reflection.

And I am sorry that the people willing to jaw with you about that point have not been to class of late, and are self-educatedly sure that they know it ALL, just as those who disagree are self-educatedly sure THEY know it all. :~)

~Susan