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Posted By: Q (Frank Staplin)
04-Jan-08 - 09:14 PM
Thread Name: Tune origins: The worms crawl in...
Subject: RE: Tune origins: The worms crawl in...
A score for "Rogue's March," 4/4, with the notes "Manuscript in the Thomas Collection, transcription by Mary Jane Corry, corrections by Mary Van Deusen."
"ROGUES MARCH Appears in: "The Compleat Tutor for the Fife, 1756." "Early American Secular Music and its European Sources 1599-1839."
Rogues March
A midi is given which is not the one commonly heard; the dittys probably used several simple tunes.

A different score for "Rogues' March, from "The English Duty," 1780, is given at a fife drum website: Rogues March
For fife, played: AA BB, "Entire New and Compleat Instructions for the Fife, 1780, Longman & Broderip: London.
Also at that site, for the Drum: "Young Drummers Assistant," 1780.

A note at the site: "Beat while "drumming" an undesirable out of camp. The actual ceremony consisted of the musicians parading the prisoner along the front of the regimental formation and then to the gate or entrance of the camp. At the entrance he would be sent on his way by a kick from the youngest drummer, with instructions never to return to the vicinity."

Hear the fifes play the 'drumming out," or "Rogues March," played on the Yorkshire Corps of Drums site: Rogues March
A Note says the tune was used to drum out dishonoured soldiers from the Army, "during the playing they were stripped of rank, badges and buttons, then ... flogged... and marched out of the camp with dishonour."

Stories of The American Revolution tell of the "Rogues' March" being used as the musical accompaniment of the parade and punishment of Loyalists who disobeyed the "Committee of Inspection."

Are these tunes and lyrics related? I think that there is a confluence of material from two or more sources.