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Thread #41241   Message #2235752
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
13-Jan-08 - 07:27 PM
Thread Name: Lyr/Tune Add: Miner Lad
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Add: Miner Lad
The Campbell sleeve notes quoted above are wrong in one important detail. 'My Miner Lad' does not appear in Lloyd's pamphlet The Singing Englishman (a full transcription of which can be seen at (http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/tse.htm) but was presumably taken instead from Singing Englishmen: A collection of folk-songs specially prepared for a Festival of Britain concert given in association with the Arts Council of Great Britain. London: Workers' Music Association, 1951 (BL index indicates that the pamphlet was originally issued by Lloyd himself in the same year, reproduced from his own typescript).

Singing Englishmen, as an ephemeral, is pretty rare; COPAC lists copies at the British Library only; the VWML also has one (with a comment in their index noting that piano accompaniments were included, and that some of the songs were modern compositions).

That being so, it would be quite difficult to tell where Lloyd got that particular form of the song. It's likely enough that he didn't say anyway, of course. The Polwarth set I mentioned some 6 years ago may be the same, but that was published nearly 20 years after Lloyd's pamphlet and, unless the Roud Index has missed the detail (I still don't have the book), no source information was given. A northeastern version, we can reasonably assume, and I'd guess that the tune was an Irish import, though such matters are frequently quite complex. The structure is a familiar one, in any case.

The song in that form seems quite rare, though it was common enough in the 'Six Jolly Miners' branch until fairly recently. Back in the 1970s it was practically impossible for inhabitants of Ecclesfield over a certain age to step out of doors without being ambushed by a folk-song enthusiast wanting to 'collect' it (I exaggerate, of course, but not as much as you might think). Their tune was quite a jolly one, though, and unrelated to the Campbell arrangement.