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Thread #106771   Message #2241784
Posted By: Teribus
22-Jan-08 - 01:16 AM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Don, you seem to have a weird idea of what constitutes evidence. For all the "cut-n-paste" articles and links, what you are presenting is opinion, contradictory opinion at that.

Mind you that should come as no surprise coming from someone who selectively does not acknowledge the principle of presumption of innocence until "proven" guilty. That proof having to be beyond all reasonable doubt.

Remember how Bobert told us how "loose" and "flexible" the ANG is. or was.

"There were hundreds of guys like him who did the same thing," - R Lieutenant Colonel (Retired) Albert C. Lloyd Jr., former Texas Air National Guard personnel chief.

"Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren't unusual, says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

"In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots," Campenni says. "The Vietnam War was winding down, and the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs. In '72 or '73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem. In fact, you were helping them solve their problem."

Now both of those retired ANG officers were talking of the conditions and circumstances in the ANG at the time GWB was serving in the Guard.

The following, taken from your first cut-n-paste article is simply rank bad journalism, deliberately couched to misrepresent and mislead:

"But Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation, a Globe reexamination of the records shows: Twice during his Guard service -- first when he joined in May 1968, and again before he transferred out of his unit in mid-1973 to attend Harvard Business School -- Bush signed documents pledging to meet training commitments or face a punitive call-up to active duty." - Globe Spotlight Team -- reporters Stephen Kurkjian, Francie Latour, Sacha Pfeiffer, and Michael Rezendes, and editor Walter V. Robinson. It was written by Robinson.

After reading that - Hands up how many would draw the conclusion that at on at least two occasions Lt.G.W.Bush was given a written warning because we was not meeting training commitments? But that was not the case was it Don? And you can tell that just by looking at the dates. May 1968!!! The man was in basic training at that time, he'd just joined the Air National Guard, he was serving full time so how in the name of hell could he be not be meeting his training requirements. Mid-1973!!! When he transferred from active to reserve. Truth of the matter is Mr. Robinson is quoting the small print on a standard form and deliberately presenting it for something that it most definitely is not.

What ANG units flew out of Montgomery Alabama Don? What were they equipped with? I'll give you one hint, there were no units in the whole of the Alabama ANG flying F-102A's. So perhaps you could suggest what GWB could have flown while on transfer to the Alabama ANG? Oh, if he's not flying he does not have to take a flying medical.