"if you dont like them...." don't what?*LOL*...you mean this a thread for people who LIKE this particular grouping..hmmm the way I've been reading it, it seems to me there are a fair number of people who DON'T like Rachel Unthank and The Winterset as well as those who like them...as for the remark about "Self-Opinated Idiots" it didn't actually originate with me, I found the joke rather amusing and picked up the ball and ran with it...As for me and RU and The Winterest. I've heard most of The Bairns and ...adequate voices, adequate arrangemnts, but, overall, nothing special, nothing to write home about.