"The people will fancy an appearance of freedom; illusion will be their native land.".......Jacques Ellul in The Political Illusion

Its very hard to get worked up over anyone in tweedledum politics. Whether it might have been Kucinich vs. Huckabee in the fall or Obama vs. Romney, it would have made only relatively minor differences after 4 years. I keep promising myself that I'll just sit over here in the corner but I'm so sick to death of these dumbass threads.............

I was a philosophy major in the 60's and all philosophy from the 60's was political philosophy. I read and understood a man in France......Jacques Ellul, whose works I commend to all.   He wrote that politics is a matter of methodology and once you have established the method, the system, those who make it work matter very little. To effect true and significant change requires revolution. This country is well past the its time and need for another revolution and I sadly don't see one coming, at least not in what is left of my lifetime. The best I can now even hope for is to elect a tweedledee who will make the bleeding a bit less painful as opposed to one like Bush who has made the bleeding hurt a bit more. In both or any and all cases, the bleeding will continue.

Spaw