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Thread #106771   Message #2253261
Posted By: CarolC
04-Feb-08 - 12:58 PM
Thread Name: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Subject: RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush
Teribus, the people who made the map you posted are being a bit dishonest about what the mandated boundaries signified. Well, actually, they're flat out lying. The mandate boundaries only dictated which areas would be administered by the British government and which would be administered by the French government. They did not dictate where Jews could live and where non-Jews could live. It was only after the boundaries of the various mandate areas were established that the British mandate area was split into Palestine and Transjordan. Those names actually mean something. Palestine was for Palestinians and also for European Jews who would be allowed to establish a Jewish homeland within that area (not all of it, but only a part of it), Transjordan was originally a part of mandate Palestine, but was split off from it and given to the Hashemites (who were not Palestinians, but from the area that is now Saudi Arabia), as a reward for helping the British government fight the Ottomans.

Winston Churchill had this to say about the Jewish homeland in Palestine...

    * "The tension which has prevailed from time to time in Palestine is mainly due to apprehensions, which are entertained both by sections of the Arab and by sections of the Jewish population. These apprehensions, so far as the Arabs are concerned are partly based upon exaggerated interpretations of the meaning of the [Balfour] Declaration favouring the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, made on behalf of His Majesty's Government on 2 November 1917."

    * 'Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded "in Palestine." In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development"'.

    * 'it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re-affirmed by the Conference of the Principal Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sèvres, is not susceptible of change.'

    * 'During the last two or three generations the Jews have recreated in Palestine a community, now numbering 80,000… it is essential that it should know that it is in Palestine as of right and not on the sufferance. That is the reason why it is necessary that the existence of a Jewish National Home in Palestine should be internationally guaranteed, and that it should be formally recognized to rest upon ancient historic connection.'

    * 'This, then, is the interpretation which His Majesty's Government place upon the Declaration of 1917, and, so understood, the Secretary of State is of opinion that it does not contain or imply anything which need cause either alarm to the Arab population of Palestine or disappointment to the Jews.'


http://www.answers.com/topic/churchill-white-paper

http://www.answers.com/topic/british-mandate-of-palestine

He is saying that the indigenous Palestinians and those Jews who came to Palestine from other places both would have equal rights to live in Palestine and call it their home, but that they would live together as equals and nobody would have any greater right to any part of Palestine than anyone else.


On the subject of partition, the non-Jewish Palestinians rejected it, which they had every right to do. In fact, they had more right to reject partition than the British government had to force partition on them. They were (are) the indigenous people of that area (along with the Arab Jews, who were also Palestinians). The Jewish agency accepted partition, but some of the Jewish paramilitary groups did not accept it.