If you want a sensible debate on how health and social care is underfunded in this country, you can start with Maggie but it is every bit as bad now, or worse, after ten years of Labour.I know because I am one of the poor sods who try to work in the system. The bottom line is that no one wants to pay more taxes and everyone howls about how state funded services are a load of shit. Make up your minds, folks.