Joe, since memories are often fallible, I went back & looked and found this (part of your reply in an infamous thread. you & I and Elsie and some others seemed to be closer then than some of us are now!)....I think I will re-read that whole thread...

Subject: RE: What is a Folk Song? From: Joe Offer Date: 19-Jul-97 - 03:33 AM

I can't believe I'm saying this, but after reading all of these messages, I have to admit that Elsie and the purists have made a good point. What changed my mind is a look at the schedule of our local "folk" club, the Palms Playhouse in Davis, CA. I used to go to the Palms once a month or more, but now it's more like twice a year. The reason: most of the performers have the moniker "singer-songwriter," after their name. The more traditional performers have been squeezed out, to a great degree.