Charley ain't a coward ~ he's just exasperated at the arcane turn this discussion has taken.

It's all well and good for the more musically educated among us to enlighten each other about fine points of advanced theory, but I'm sure it seemed to Charley, as it did to me, that these flights of fancy could only be confusing to anyone who needs help with the very simple notion of how to identify the key he's playing in when using a capo at a given fret.

This is folk music we're talking about here, isn't it? On some level, we really need to KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)!

I don't mean to suggest that there's anything wrong with learning as much about music as one can, but this thread was begun by asking an extremely simple and basic question.

Happily, it looks like Mr Happy got the answers he needed ~ not just from the forum, but also with the help of some in-person consultation over the weekend ~ and he, apparently, is not at all unhappy that this thread drifted into a much broader and more advanced discussion.