Thanks for the observations, Graham. You have given some food for thought, and maybe we could start another thread to discuss all the rest of the intertwined issues you raise. It would be a good one. But I want to keep this thread as a place for women to have an open discussion, completely from their perspective, from which they can learn/teach each other, and we (males) can try and gain an understanding of their perspectives.   If we can keep it to that, we (males) stand to gain quite a lot in terms of understanding.

All the best,

Mick