Little Hawk - reality is demonstrable. You can have your own version, but if it doesn't jibe with what is demonstrable, then you are wrong, whether you want to believe it or not.

And I certainly feel - and in reality AM- threatened by the credulously superstitious, and so are you, whether you wish to believe it or not. The war of Islamic terrorists on the rest of the world has been going on for decades; the war of Christianity against reason in the US is kind of new, but none the less threatening.

Believing Christians may not blow up embassies or airliners, yet, but they murder doctors, deny reality (not what they believe, but what actually IS), they are having a very good run at stifling reason when it contradicts their faith (their word for what I would call their dangerous and stupid superstitions), and (just to get back to the thread), this couple of them actually murdered, in many people's hearts, their child, by stupidly refusing to believe that she could possibly die if all they did for her as she got sicker and sicker and sicker was pray. The really sad thing is that in 40 states, if you allow a child to die because of your religion, that is legal, whereas if you let them die IN THE EXACT SAME NEGLECTFUL WAY

The believers in prayer are not living in their own reality. They are living in a delusion that is real to them. The same could be said of many mad people... except that there are no priests to say The voices you hear are the word of God, nowadays. Small favors.