"Those men must have thought they died and gone to heaven"

I'm not sure whether this is meant to suggest that men in general, if they could, would choose to live this kind of existence.

Speaking for myself, I would find witnessing the misery and anguish of women and girls being abused to be sickening and traumatic, much more so the thought of participating in any such abuse.

I'd take the bullet!

And I would like to believe that most men in the west have a similar mindset and that is why they have willingly played their part in the evolution of a culture where such things are viewed as unacceptable and have as a consequence been ruled illegal.

We men are indeed a testosterone driven bunch, but in general this manifests itself healthily and in the event that it doesn't, we are able to recognize it rationally and learn to understand why.

The creation of these sects is all about forming bubbles of alternative society so that the norms of wider society can be replaced with new norms that allow the illusion to be mainyained that abuse is allowed and normal.

Who creates these groups? abusers of course.

And of course abuse isn't the only route to heaven, so are suicide and murder. Jim Jones is a prime example.

And who are their victims? those whose own mental health is fragile and who need care andd nurturing.

In the absence of such care and nurturing from society in the form of a proper mental health program, there is a "gap in the market" for people like Jim Jones who can pounce on their victims without much opposition.

The victims are labelled wackos and everyone turns a blind eye and atrocities are committed behind closed doors.

All groups should be registered and be subject to controls to ensure that they remain compatible with the fundamental premisses of society such as basic human rights, freedom of expression and protection from the law for their members to name but a few of the thngs which keep us out of the jungle.