"Glueman - could it be you're getting Hatfield and the North mixed up with Kilburn and the High Roads?"

D'oh! Saw them both and should have known better. In mitigation a mate took me to see endless Prog bands (in number and duration) who did merge rather. Funny how English progressive rock has gone from being derided to a quintessential part of the domestic scene.

So far as professionalism goes the point is most 'pro' acts aim to provide a market with a performance that is as close to previous delivery and recordings as possible. Industrial production if you like. Mood, ambience, bloody mindedness have no place in the industrial method - though Motown did rather well by nailing some highly nuanced jazz musicians onto a big square beat - so cannot by definition be idiosyncratic. Against such prescription like you Sedayne, familiarity means I treat the quirky and raw as the rarity it is and prize it accordingly.

The return to definitions of what folk is, even when such prompts are only in the eye of the beholder, is monomania frankly. The fact the debate is still running shows the music is still pulling at its fetters and therefore, alive.