Joe - I didn't know that about JPII, I must admit. Can you point me at anything?

Yes, I'm being a bit simplistic I admit, and obviously I've no personal argument with you, I do hope that's crystal clear. I wouldn't pretend to know the solution to the child molesting problem, but I do think offenders from a position of trust should have harsher penalties imposed, and certainly be prevented at any cost from even having a chance do re-offend.

Incidentally, it's time someone pointed out that there is a difference between paedophilia and child abuse. They are not the same thing and are every bit as seperate as Catholicism and Nazism. Paedophiles are not necessarily child abusers and vice versa. I'm making no point here other than expressing irritation at the constant misuse of the word.