The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #110656   Message #2325290
Posted By: Andrez
25-Apr-08 - 09:21 AM
Thread Name: Pop Goes The Folk Singer
Subject: RE: Pop Goes The Folk Singer
Yep, just as I suspected, discussions of this kind:

< the idea of having a multiple number of cultures living under the one state-law should be questioned>

are really code calling for support for a perspective or point of view about society that is at its core racist..... pure and simple!

An ex politician in my country recently made a big deal about returning back to "traditional values". The outcome of this was the denial of basic human rights to people fleeing cruel and oppressive regimes of many kinds by imprisoning them for years offshore before exporting them back to where they came from. All this in the name of keeping values and of course the country "pure" and "white" and "anglo-saxon/christian in values. The fact that the country is made up of immigrants exclusively plus a few locals who were there before the immigrants, was conveniently ignored, but the proposition and supporting arguments were used to promote fairly nasty right wing, conservative political ideologies and social policies. The same thing seems to be happening in the UK as well.

Further-more, "a multiple number of cultures living under the one state-law" ..... this is usually called society, something that basically represents the context of our lives in whatever country we are living in or born into and basically just have to deal with as part of our lives.

So "Walkabout" or David Franks, how about being a little bit more upfront with your values and beliefs instead of making oblique references to the social situation in the UK and suggesting that something is not OK about it. I suspect that Enoch Powells views would resonate well with your value set!

Personally I dont care if you do choose to hold these beliefs, you are entitled to that in a democracy. Just understand that it is just one point of view and dont expect to have other people agree with you.

Cheers,

Andrez