I'm sure I read more, some time ago, on La Reynaudie. There was (I think I read) some pretty direct connection to the curious phrase "brought up in Venus train". I also noted, I think ( hope I remember this) that the chateau de la Reynaudie (still I think a wine appelation) was in a mountanous region.

I also vaguely remember something being made of the nature of the melody we use, and evidence of immigration to Sussex.

Now where oh where did I read it?

What I don't think I can rebut is that Lloyd concocted rather than collected at least parts of his version.

But thank you Nerd for your careful and learned explanation. Things like that are the core of what makes the Mudcat such a wonderful place, and help me to remain safe against the idiocies of horse definitioners.