It's a good point you make Don.

We pick our candidates and the electorate elects them.So far so good. The Labour Party has a long winded system for generating policy, also good. Labour governments follow policy until it would be wrong,then do something else, still good.

Parties and electorate don't like elected members we have an election - change or not - all good.

The problem for me is parties with no connection to the grassroots - they just make it up as they go along with out reference to the roots. This could be Tory or Labour currently and it's not good.

As for fines - the rich can pay them.