Google "Information Clearing House Newsletter", BB, for "cumulative Iraqi awr deaths"...

And how many Iraqis would have been killed had we not invaded??? One heck of alot less than what we've seen since the invasion...

BTW, BB, you seem to only understand military solutions and seem incapable of going back to 2002 and imagine a different world view from that of your neocon buddies... Saddam was a company man and he was vain and scared to death of his neighbors... We knew this much about him from our past dealings with the man so what if rather than having Bush surrounded by neocons he had been surrounded with folks who understood how to manipulate Saddam and bring him back into the fold with some kind of security pact??? Of course one could have put a little "stick" in the "carrots and sticks"...

But no, the neocons only understoof the "stick" part of foriegn policy and it clearly hasn't worked and won't work... Occupying countries hasn't worked out too well going back a 100 years... Colonialism and neo-colonialism has proven to be a trap to the invader... And no it is US that is very badly trapped of out own makings...

In the words of the late Waylon Jennings, "We need a change"...

B~