Withdrawl needs to be packaged and sold, LH, as part of a new consciousness... We are all stuck in a erat where failure after failure is acceptable... Someone has to be at the helm when we diseengage and I can't see McCain as capable since his thinking is too steeped in "military"...

Einstein said that "a problem cannot be solved with the saame consciousness that created it"... I very much beleive this to be true... Vietnam is a good example... We did have to disengage but we didn't have to bungle it the way we did... Had we used more creative diplomacy with Hanoi it could have been accomplished more orderly but we used military thinking in the disengagement...

This is where, IMO, Obama has the best chance to to avoid "worst case scenerio" in that during the 16 months of disengagement he has time to use a fresh foriegn policy that doesn't merely threaten but brings our adversaries into discussion of "regional security", which is the crux of what everyone in that part of the world wants...

B~