"There is plenty of physical evidence, but you are never going to have the satisfaction of seeing it, nor is the general public or the press or even most people in the civilian government or even most military people. It's top secret, dummy!!!"

How very convenient. The absence of evidence as proof of a cover-up? Ever heard of the Emperor's new clothes? Thanks for the insult.

"I find the claims of a great many actual eyewitnesses (myself among them) to be far more persuasive than your doubts, Bill . . .""

Did you read the account of my sighting LH? Just because I don't think it was a spaceship makes no less real for all that it's a different opinion, plain and simple. It's not unreasonable to ask for evidence that goes beyond hearsay, and if this were a massive cover-up then I firmly believe there would be more proof.

I used to be very well read on this subject 20 years ago or so, long before MJ12 or whoever emerged on the scene. there was a thriving community of enthusiastic people working hard to find out what some of these sightings might represent. Over time these people had an effect - the exposed the top-secret Aurora project (seen in the area where I live, probably flying from the BAE facility at Woodford, Cheshire), which has since become an open secret.

Look through my posts on the site LH - you'll see I'm no great fan of the establishment, our respective governments or even the capitalist system, but do I believe that aliens are enslaving us, bending the collective will to their own ends? No - there are plenty of ordinary Homo sapiens willing and able to do that for their own reasons and therin lies our problems the world over. No aliens controlling the Holocaust, Abu Ghraib, 9/11 or anything else, just plain, ordinary people. Perhaps because these capability to do these things is an intrinsic part of the human condition it's easier to invent a world controlled by malevolent alien invaders than it is to face up and address to our own inhumanity to each other.

I base my opinions on the facts available at any one time. If the facts change, my opinion might. But blind faith in everything written? Accepting someone's word as gospel every time? No I'll keep an open, questioning mind and form my own views on the subject.

I'd rather be an oink oink with a mind of my own than a sheep.