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Thread #111301   Message #2348805
Posted By: GUEST,Peace-bringer
25-May-08 - 10:58 AM
Thread Name: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
"Let me ask you this "Peace-bringer"... do you support the idea of Israel withdrawing to the pre-1967 lines?"

I support the work of all people who are trying to bring humans together, without lines, (1967 or 2008) religions, history, lists of previous wrong doings, occupations, or bombs dropped. This situation will never heal whilst there are those who will not let things settle. The past is past. The people of the present have to heal, so that the people of the future can live their lives in peace. No lines should be drawn in the sand, nor walls built. The land belongs to all.

We are people, first and foremost, before we are 'religions'. When the day comes that Jew can take the hand of Muslim, and Muslim the hand of Jew, and realise their hands are exactly the same, then we will be getting somewhere. It is, of course, already happening, but the powers that be choose to focus on the bad, not the good, thus continuing the tragedy on both sides. If the media focussed upon the wonderful things that are happening, then that good feeling would spread far and wide.

"The solution for the Palestinian humans is also the solution for everyone else."

Exactly. That is what 'peace' was saying, I believe. This needs "a solution for humans" , as he stated. Remove the word 'Palestinian' or 'Jew' and see how easy the solution becomes.

However, you then go on to once again, bring in blame.

"Until this problem is addressed, none of the other problems will be solved. This one is the linchpin. The problem is Israel's expansionist policies. These policies are creating instability and wars and violence all throughout the Middle East. This is the problem that needs to be corrected. Once that happens, everything else falls into place."

No, everything will only fall into place once both sides recognise that at different times, both have been wrong, and both have been right. The sooner that is accepted and all the humans involved in this sad story are able to see each other as brothers, not enemies, the better it will be for all.

Israel has been wrong, Palestine has been wrong. You can either argue about it, for eternity, or move on, to peace. You state your words above, I could also state the Palestinian leaders have been training children to hate and kill, and so the 'blame' would go on, ad infinitum. There is much wrong in all of this, on both sides, driven by extremists, who revel in hatred, and in keeping that hatred alive. It is the ordinary people who need to win this war, and they need to win it peacefully.   

It cannot be a 'You stop first' situation. It can only be "We both stop together'

This hatred can only be stopped by love.