Serendipitously, one of the Quotes for Today on my iGoogle home page is:

"It's so much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much about the problem."
- Malcolm Forbes

But WAV, you haven't answered my question, or have deliberately evaded it. In the context of this discussion, it should have been clear that I was referring to ceilidhs in England when I asked what you imagine goes on at them. So please elucidate.

And now you've mentioned the hymns, WAV, I'm a bit worried about them too. Surely you're aware that the modern hymnals, including "Hymns Ancient and Modern" which you seem to favour so much, virtually eradicated the traditional English hymns? Surely you should be singing those, not HAM, as being truly representative of English culture?