How convenient you pronounce this a dead thread WAV. Was that because no one agreed with you? Was that because you can't answer, or refuse to answer questions that I and others have asked of you? Or for that matter defend statements that you make, with verbatim quotes from your "website" ad infinitum? Do you accept any form of disagreement WAV? You are the one trying to make a point. At no point on this thread have I seen you step back and say...I respectfully disagree. Instead you send us a link back to your entire website in search of some vague point that may be related to the point in question. Here's the thing, I disagree with people on here all the time, a lot of time we find agreement, partial agreement. Because of your bold pronouncements upon a form of music you have only fairly recently become acquainted with, you alienate people who have decades more working experience with the form than you have. Instead of taking the advice and wisdom of professionals like Chris Parkinson and Eliza Carthy, you have chosen to disregard even their words. Which is why this leaves you with a thread in which no one has agreed with your starting premise of English Country Dances as being the necessary phrase you feel should apply to a dance event, despite ample evidence against your claims. So therein lies another point WAV. If this were a court, and you had presented your case to all of us. The rest of us all countered with our own evidence to disprove your argument, as we have been doing. Going in to the jury or to the judge-who's evidence was more solid, and had more tangible proof, versus who's evidence was more about conjecture, and speculative? Listen mate-you like English folk music. I do too! Lots of us on here do as a matter of fact. Lots of us like other types of music too, as it seems you do as well. Why the need for rules to govern it by? Music is about emotion. Music is about laughing, or crying, or smiling, or anger, or hope. English folk music is underappreciated, thats one of the great things about this forum, we may disagree, but we are all talking about English folk. Why be so strict about how and where it should be played? Go to a ceilidh, tell them right after that Irish song they should tell people-THIS, is an English song, ladies and gentlemen, enjoy it for what it is, as I have for over 20 of my, gulp, almost 40 years on this planet! Cheers.