" ..majority of American presidents have very probably at some time and in some way violated their sworn oaths to protect and defend the Constitution" LH

Breaking that vow is not that different from the vows we all make- and break. Intent beset by weakness is the operative word here. Making a vow in the full knowledge that deception and manipulation and plans are in opposition is cynical beyond any weakness.

"With the implication that any attempt to change that constition must always have been subversive and shouldn't have been alloqwed to happen. Which would of course mean that neihter Obama nor Clinton could have even been candidates for election..." McGrath

Kevin, I don't understand the statement. Would you elucidate?