Some of you need to get off your soapboxes & talk to a few landlords, but you won't do that will you because you don't want to hear how much the ban has effected so many of them. Clubs & pubs are closing as I predicted ages ago & a lot of you attacked me like rabid savages & made me unwelcome in the "folk world" well it's coming home to roost on your own doorsteps. Please remember ALL I wanted was 25% of pubs to be smoking for the 25% of us who smoke! We "the U/K" are a democracy, aren't we? Skipy