WEll, I detected quite a lot of "ought to". I was merely trying to point out that there is no moral imperative you can use to persuade people to like what they don't like, or play what they don't want to. My suggestion, JimC, was just that you had a listen to the new ECarthy CD before criticising it,; on the grounds that you might be agreeeably surprised. Whether you actually like it or not when you do so is of no moral significance at all!