"Well, Jim Carroll thinks otherwise. Between a guy who dedicated large chunks of his life to looking for folksong in the wild and some guy who posts anonymously on the Internet - well, it's hard to know who to believe, isn't it?"

The implication I took was that Jim had a direct line to what was and wasn't folk. I've re-read what you said a few times and am unable to establish a different inference. (Your opportunity to put another waspish response in here Pip) I didn't bring Jim into it and value field work very highly indeed. However if he holds 1954 higher than a general guide to thinking at the time I could argue with him about definitions. All this is getting away from the original question.