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Thread #112806   Message #2392028
Posted By: Stu
18-Jul-08 - 08:58 AM
Thread Name: BS: British criminality seems to be getting
Subject: RE: BS: British criminality seems to be getting
"By the second or third generation these kids should be thinking of themselves as "British kids" not "Bangladeshi kids"

Why? I don't think of myself as British and chances are my family have probably been here since the last ice age. The idea of living in a free and tolerant society is that people can think of themselves as how they want rather than have to conform to some sort of non-existent ideal.

The very idea of human trafficking is utterly repugnant and whether they are here illegally or otherwise is largely irrelevant - and I agree that if the due process of law is followed they will be either deported or imprisoned and that's that, regardless of race or anything else.

"If people from anywhere in the world seek asylum and permanent resident in any country then it is their duty to assimilate with the local customs, culture and way of life."

Well, assuming that those people who have immigrated here legally are contributing to society as a whole by working here, paying their tax and NI, subject to the same laws as the rest of us what does this statement mean? Local customs - Morris Dancing? Drinking fifteen pints on a Friday night and spewing all over the town centre? Garden parties? Culture - an endless stream of mindless drivel from across the Atlantic? Fighting outside Weatherspoons? The Daily Mail (and all it's mean-minded readers)? Way of life? A stagnating society fuelled by blind consumerism and single-minded self-interest? A lack of respect for others? Intolerance and a slavish devotion to the capitalist ideal?

I ask again - what are these ideals these people must abandon their identities for? We already make them swear allegiance to those sponging inbreds in Buck Pal:

"I (name) swear by Almighty God that on becoming a British citizen, I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, her Heirs and Successors, according to law."

I certainly wouldn't take that oath, and I see no reason why these people should have to swear allegiance to the decedents of those who may well have instrumental years ago in setting in motion the chain of events that led these people here in the first place.


" I'd birch them publicly and lock them up for eight years with no remission."

Er, you're not Max Moseley are you Teribus?