After McGrath of Harlow's wonderful teasing out what Pete Seeger and Barack Obama share in common:

"It's a different style of oratory from in previous times, but it's a highly crafted style - and that isn't accusing Obama of insincerity. The parallel with Pete Seeger is appropriate, because there is a man who has shown that it's quite possible to be sincere and yet put across a performance that brings an audience together and helps them come alive."

I have that rare, pleasurable moment of being better understood than I understand myself! And Dani's movement of the discussion into the kitchen is also wonderful for there she contrasts a sort of virtuoso, "Great Man" style of leadership with collaborative leadership of the sort Obama seeks to inspire in his listeners.

SO who here is the elitist?