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Thread #92714   Message #2403760
Posted By: GUEST,Sawzaw
02-Aug-08 - 02:32 PM
Thread Name: BS: A Declaration of Impeachment
Subject: RE: BS: A Declaration of Impeachment
"persistence in speaking the truth as best I can find it out."

Here is some truth that Amos found out:

"Can you name the one country on earth where the government [Ukraine][Azerbaijan][Serbia][Zimbabwe][Hayes v Tilden] can steal elections,[Ukraine][Azerbaijan][Serbia][Zimbabwe][Hayes v Tilden] strip away basic rights [Abe Lincoln], spy on citizens,[Netherlands][Clinton's Echelon] and launch wars based on lies [Bay of Tonkin], but where the people do not take over the nation's capital in protest?"

Here are some details about spying on citizens:

Dutch law goes beyond enabling wiretapping to make it a requirement
Source: New York Times

The Netherlands has set a controversial benchmark for official snooping on all forms of communications. Other countries, namely those of the European Union, may follow suit. On April 2, 1998 the Second Chamber of the Dutch Parliament approved a new Telecommunications Act that includes a chapter intended, among other things, to force cable operators and Internet service providers to make their networks tappable by the police and intelligence services.

A study, carried out by the scientific research and documentation center of the Dutch Ministry of Justice, revealed in 1996 that police in the Netherlands intercept more telephone calls than their counterparts in the United States, Germany or Britain. In absolute figures, the Dutch tapped three times more phone lines than the U.S. agencies.