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Thread #112808   Message #2404361
Posted By: Teribus
03-Aug-08 - 02:06 PM
Thread Name: BS: War is over. The surge has succeeded!
Subject: RE: BS: War is over. The surge has succeeded!
GUEST Jack the Sailor (02 Aug 08 - 08:45 PM)

"I have no idea what Bush set out to do. He lied so much about the war and changed the target so many times, there was and is no clear goal."

JTS states this but cannot provide any examples.

JTS states this attempting to convince us that there was and could only be one single reason to justify the actions taken when in actual fact there were many.

JTS states this attempting to convince us all that there must be a single objective that must be accomplished, when in actual fact there were lots, many of which have been achieved.

By the bye Jack The Sailor here are a few questions you conveniently forgot to respond to:

"Iraq was being contained." - JTS

Was it?? In what way?? Exactly how was it being contained?? Again I ask you what would Saddam's reaction have been to Iran's nuclear programme??

"Al Qaeda was the real enemy" - JTS

Al-Qaeda was, and still is one "real enemy" amongst a number of others, but it was not adjudged, via evaluation and analysis, to be the greatest threat. Could you explain to us Jack The Sailor, exactly what the security benefit would have been to the USA in single-mindedly pursuing one of your enemies, while completely ignoring the greatest threat to your country? List for us Jack The Sailor the things we would not have a clue about if the US had not called the UN to take action against Iraq in 2002 and had not gone into Iraq in March 2003 when it became patently obvious that the UN was going to do nothing to enforce compliance on Resolution 1441?

"Afghanistan was and is the central front in the war on terrorism." - JTS.

Is it?? Care to tell us how and why?? Bin Laden, his second in command and Mullah Omar get captured tomorrow, the Taleban throw in the towel immediately on hearing the news, do you think that that would be the end of it?? Are you really that naive??