Well, Jack, I've felt for some time that the aliens are using a method of propulsion that:

1. does not use fuel
2. is not subject to our laws of inertia (no "G" forces to contend with)
3. either operates quite independently of gravitational forces or has a way of utilizing them or reversing them at will to propel the vessel
4. may involve what we would term interdimensional or even time travel
5. may therefore be effectively instantaneous when crossing great distances and would place the traveller safely at a predetermined junction point which would be accurately chosen and calculated
6. after you arrive at that point you do local maneuvering, using the same basic system (or another), but at manageable speeds for local manuevering



Now...Jack...if that is so, then Einstein and Newton knew nothing about it. This would not mean that their laws are wrong, it would simply mean that their laws only go so far and are not adequate to cover all situations.

And if it is so, then it would explain the things that you can't find an explanation for.

What makes you so sure that you already know enough to say that it can't be so?

I'm not saying it is so...I'm simply saying it might be.

You see, when I am already convinced about 99.9% that aliens have visited us and are doing so, I do not look for various ways to convince myself that it's impossible that they could travel here...or extremely improbable. Why bother to waste my time doing that? No, I look for theories as to how they did manage to travel here. It's much more productive than trying to disprove what I already regard as a virtual certainty: alien contact with this planet.

The reason we are arguing in different directions, you see, is we're proceeding from entirely different initial assumptions.

My assumption: They are visiting us. I regard that as a given.

A number of you don't see it that way at all. Therefore you argue in different directions and with entirely different purposes in mind. To me, it's like you're trying to explain why fish can't swim....but I already know they can! ;-)

We all agree about the fish. We don't all agree about the aliens.